Module 4: Disputes
4.1 Mrs P
Well done for getting to this fourth module of the course. In this module we examine some of the different disputes that have reached court. We explore the court hearing, and the judgment, in ways which allow learners to engage with these disputes as dynamic processes and think through some of the ethical and legal principles as they play out in practice.
In this first unit we focus on ‘Mrs P’ who was in a minimally conscious state. The case came to court because there was a dispute about Clinically Assisted Nutrition and Hydration [CANH]. In the media, this case was presented as a ‘family row’, but as you will see from the outline of the case the main dispute here was between the treating clinicians and some of Mrs P’s family. You’ll hear more about the views of different members of the family as you read on and learn about the witness statements – and you can judge whether or not the media were right in the way they framed the story.
Outline of the case
This court case was about Mrs P and took place in October 2017, 11 months after her brain injury. The application was brought by the NHS Foundation Trust responsible for her care. The Trust sought a declaration that it was in Mrs P’s best interests to receive life-sustaining treatment including clinically assisted artificial nutrition and hydration (CANH) by way of a Percutaneous Endoscopic Gastrostomy (PEG) a procedure in which a flexible feeding tube is placed through the abdominal wall and into the stomach. At the time, Mrs P was receiving CANH via a naso-gastric tube, which she repeatedly dislodged.
The judge in this case was Mr Justice Hayden. The question for the judge was:
Is it in Mrs P’s best interests to receive clinical treatment including clinically assisted artificial nutrition and hydration (CANH) by way of a PEG or is CANH not in her best interests.
Parties to the case
The parties in this case, each of whom was represented by a barrister in court, were:
(a) The NHS Foundation Trust providing treatment for the patient;
(b) The patient, Mrs P (the barrister for the patient is from the Office of the Official Solicitor);
(c) A daughter of the patient.
The treating clinician and many treating allied health professionals considered that Mrs P should have a PEG. Mrs P’s daughter was of the view that she would not want continued life-sustaining treatment.
Click on the box below if you’d like to know the barristers that represented the different parties in this case.
Counsel for the different parties in this case
Counsel for the different parties were:
- Joseph O’Brien (instructed by Hill Dickinson) for the Trust
- Vikram Sachdeva (instructed by the Official Solicitor) for the Mrs P
- Victoria Butler-Cole and Annabel Lee (instructed by Irwin Mitchell LLP) for Mrs P’s daughter.
Observing and reporting from the hearing
This case was heard in public. Jenny Kitzinger and Celia Kitzinger attended the hearing. We asked permission from the judge and then live-tweeted statements from the witnesses in the courtroom. Our aim was to support open justice and to encourage dialogue and reflection on the case. We tweeted under our own names and from the research centre (@cdocuk); we used the hashtag #COPOct17.
We’ve used these tweets to help create this resource and give you an impression of what happened in the court. (Witnesses also submitted written statements in advance.)
The witnesses in court
Witnesses who spoke in court were: healthcare professionals from Mrs P’s clinical team, an independent expert in neuro-rehabilitation and Mrs P’s family and friends. Click on each witness to see examples of what they said in court.
As you read examples of the statement made in court consider questions such as: what differences do you notice in the evidence presented by different witnesses and what conclusion do you reach on the basis of the evidence heard? As you read on also pay attention to anything you notice about interventions from the judge.
First, consider the evidence from Mrs P’s therapists and a nurse.
Physiotherapist
Mrs P smiles, frowns etc; she appeared to nod when asked if she remembered her dog. When asked what radio channel she wanted, she said “four”. She nods and shakes her head ‘automatically’ during conversations – no consistent evidence that these are appropriate ‘Yes’ or ‘No’ responses to particular questions. Mrs P has contractures (can be painful). Her limbs are stretched by physio (she goes red, breathes heavily, frowns, tenses muscles). When we try to move her limbs she resists – stops us from moving them.
Mrs P sometimes appears to show discomfort. Naso-gastric tube has been dislodged 55 times. Patient has mitten on hand to prevent her pulling out her naso-gastric tube.
Occupational Therapist
Occupational Therapist reports seeing the patient 2 to 3 times a week. Shows her photos etc + checks if she can respond. Tear ran down patient’s cheek looking at photo of herself and her sisters. No response to spray of perfume. No response to hairbrush. Patient was “attending to photo album”, i.e looking at it + tracking it when moves. Tear rolling down cheek was interpreted as meaning she was sad about the photos but Occupational Therapist witness agreed that couldn’t be sure.
Speech and Language Therapist
Speech + Language Therapist is working with patient on tracheostomy-weaning & on communication. Volume of secretions means it may be difficult ever to remove trachy. Suctioning of secretions ‘doesn’t look a pleasant experience’. Counsel for Mrs P asks about effect of nano-gastric tube and mitten on ability to communicate. ‘Not much’ says SALT. Testing with broad hand movement.
Nurse
Nurse reports that patient smiles + relaxes in bath, grimaces with suctioning (‘I’d say it hurts’) and definitely cries with naso-gastric tube insertion. Judge says: “Cases of this kind are acutely distressing”. Nurse says it’s the first time she’s encountered it + yes she’s very distressed. Nurse is thanked by judge for giving evidence today, despite her huge distress.
Next you can read a bit about what was said by the neuro-rehabilitation experts who had examined Mrs P: her treating doctor and an independent expert. The two doctors, in this case, were sworn/affirmed in for joint questioning at the same time instead of one after the other. The questioning here seemed designed to explore the extent of consensus about Mrs P’s diagnosis and prognosis and her current (and possible future) experience of the benefits and burdens of treatment.
Treating Doctor and Independent Consultant
Treating doctor saw patient looking at TV. Patient touched TV screen as if trying to move TV closer. Congruent with fluctuating consciousness in MCS. Treating Dr concerned that staffing levels have meant that Mrs P has not had level of therapy that might enable progress. Patient can tolerate 3hrs in her chair, we try to do this every day but can’t because of staffing issues + shortage of chairs. Mrs P actively disengages from therapy (e.g. closes eyes at photos). Therapy opportunities are limited in care homes too.
Treating Dr + Independent Expert agree there will be no improvements in Mrs P’s motor control, swallowing, or ability to speak (Mrs P can ‘vocalise’ but not speak). They also agree there will be no improvement in her ability to think or remember. Treating Dr’s view is that clinically assisted nutrition and hydration should be continued. Reports patient is not feeling pain or distress at present, except in relation to naso-gastric tube and suction.
Independent Expert Witness points out that suctioning is painful + unpleasant. All agree that Mrs P repeatedly tries (& sometimes succeeds) in removing nasogastric tube: that’s why mitt on her hand. Official Solicitor’s barrister say patient should have had PEG tube in Feb/March.
Judge asks “Why am I sitting here in October listening to this”, given that this means “10 months of avoidable agony?”
Discussion of life-expectancy if clinically assisted nutrition and hydration by neurorehab experts. The doctors both agree that Mrs P is only likely to live for a few years (she also has COPD – Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease)
What are you currently thinking about this case? Are you forming a preliminary view about what is right for Mrs P? Now have a look at what was said by her daughters, partner, grandson and friend.
Daughter(1)
Daughter says: The only person who’s missing in this courtroom is my Mum”. She was a fiercely independent lady. Very right wing. Very religious – her own brand! She wasn’t frightened of death. Thought she’d go to heaven, see Jesus & her friends again. She was frightened of being how she is now.
Judge asks: how did your mother deal with her CPOD?” (Chronic obstructive Pulmonary Disease).
Daughter: She put it in a box & put a lid on it. She was proud and private. She hated being seen as vulnerable
Judge asks: How do you feel about visiting your mother?
Daughter: I don’t like it.
Judge responds: There’s no shame in that. Be brutally honest
Daughter: My mum has gone. It’s a very sharp reminder of what I’ve lost and what Mum has lost. She’s there and not there. The essence of her, the personality of her is gone. And I miss her
Daughter has provided an email from her mother in which Mrs P wrote: “Did you see that thing [TV programme] on dementia? Made me think of dad and what a travesty of life his last years were [with dementia]…You know I miss mum, and I still talk to her everyday but it is a comfort that she went quickly & I’m still haunted by how he ended up…Get the pillow ready if I get that way”.
Daughter(2)
Mrs P’s other daughter supported her sister’s view of what their mother would want. She said that her mother would be horrified by present situation, even when needed help would not accept it – She’d be horrified to be seen in this state.
Partner
I was initially told she could be home in 6 months, this hasn’t happened. I used to want treatment to continue but I’ve read the Expert Witness opinion and I have realised situation. I now want the feeding to be withdrawn – for her (Judge: what do you want for yourself?) ‘I want her to recover, to the extent that I could speak with her. She’d be horrified if I let her continue in that state. She had dignity. She wouldn’t want this. I love her very much.
Partner says that Mrs P would want level of recovery that meant: “She’d want to be able to read and have a conversation at a minimum.”
Friend
This witness was a friend of Mrs P, and had known her over 40 years. She says P was very worried about losing eyesight – loved to read and be on committees. Friend gives moving testimony on decision for herself & others, & conversations with P when they both had COPD diagnosis, ‘we were both a mess’ Friend talked with P about her own diagnosis + P said she didn’t want to go through that
Grandson
This young boy was present throughout the hearing – and decided he wanted to contribute, a request allowed by the judge and very sensitively handled. One of the things he said was: My grandmother loved to be independent. If there was anything she couldn’t do herself she’d insist she could do it herself.
Mrs P’s three sisters were also in court. They were not united with the rest of the family. Click to reveal their statements.
Sister(1)
[Mrs P] told me about being in Church & they sang a hymn that she planned to have at her funeral – but we did not discuss death.
You can’t answer for anyone else what they’d want at end of life unless they’ve written in down e.g. in legal document.
End of life decisions should rest with the medical profession.
Sister(2)
I don’t believe I have any right to make a decision about whether my sister lives or dies.
Sister(3)
Sister3 says she and patient never discuss end of life issues – No, only she [Mrs P] said ‘I know I’ll never make old bones’. Sister3 is clear about her own views – “I believe in the sanctity of life”. Sister3 expresses concern that P is not dying, and concern about the manner of the death (if feeding tube withdrawn). Judge responds with discussion of palliative care.
Questions for you
Look at the three questions below. Make a note of your own answers. Then click on each one to reveal our answers, or see what the judge decided.
Q1. Did different members of Mrs P’s family present a different view of what Mrs P herself might have wanted?
Our answer: Mrs P’s sister’s did not want to be involved in a decision to stop her life-sustaining treatment. They expressed views such as ‘End of life decisions should rest with the medical profession’ or ‘I believe in the sanctity of life’. They did not say anything which contradicted the characterisation of Mrs P’s own views as presented by Mrs P’s daughters, friend or grandsons.
Q2. What sort of interventions did the judge make which appeared supportive of, or challenging to, witnesses?
Our answer: Sometimes the judge, Mr Justice Hayden, seemed to make a clear effort to demonstrate respect and concern for witnesses, such as for the nurse who was distressed giving evidence. Sometimes he also provided reassurance – such as when he talked about the palliative care that would be provided to Mrs P in response to a sister’s concern about potential pain. The judge could also be critical at times – such as when he criticised the delay in bringing the case to court.
Q3. What do you think the judge decided?
The judge decided to refuse the Trust’s application to put in a PEG and continue providing clinically assisted nutrition and hydration. In his judgment Mr Justice Hayden stated:
“[Mrs P’s] present high level of dependency and minimal awareness would, to her, have been ‘a travesty of life’…. Her incapacitous state does not mean her wishes can be disregarded. Her family, each of them, has permitted her voice to be heard and thus enabled her to assert her own autonomy. For the avoidance of any ambiguity I emphasise that I decline the Trust’s application.”
Mrs P was moved onto a palliative care pathway and allowed to die.
A link to the full judgment (with extensive clinical details and more information about the judge’s reasoning) can be found here: https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCOP/2017/23.html
Now scroll down to the end of the unit – unless you’d like to pursue some more advanced learning, in which case look at the three optional exercises below. (You can always come back to these later.)
Advanced learning – optional exercises
One of the issues that prompted a lot of debate was the treatment of an email from Mrs P. We tweeted about this at the time, prompting a lot of debate on social media.
In the exercise below you can look at how the judge addressed this issue in his published judgment. You can also read an example of how other commentators have reflected on this issue.
Advanced Learning 1 – Optional exercise
An email from Mrs P was cited in court in which (writing about her own father’s decline) she commented: “Get the pillow ready if I get that way”. Look at the paragraphs reproduced below taken from the published judgment and read the article indicated from ‘Christian Today’. Then answer the question:
- Given what you’ve learnt about the Mrs P case, and read in the judgment, do you think the criticism in “Christian Today” is justified? Why/Why not?
Section from judgment
Article from "Christian Today"
A critical piece published in ‘Christian Today’ about a different case uses this quote from Mrs P, alongside others, to question how decision are being made. Access this article here: https://www.christiantoday.com/article/the-sad-case-of-rs-whatever-happened-to-the-sanctity-of-life/136403.htm
Advanced learning 2 – Principles and case law
The published judgment spells out the reasoning behind the decision made by the judge, Mr Justice Hayden. This involves lots of different elements. In this exercise we draw your attention to just one section of the judgment (paragraph 29) which addresses some ‘…principles to be taken from the evolving case law’.
(a) What sort of principles might these be?
(b) And, if you already know case law in this area then which cases do you think might be mentioned? (Note: this judgment was in 2017, so will not be referring to more recent cases.)
Note down your ideas, then click on the six boxes below.
29(i)
29. Ms Butler-Cole, who appears on behalf of Q [Mrs P’s daughter], has conveniently distilled what she submits are some uncontroversial principles to be taken from the evolving case law. I agree. Though at risk of repetition I think it is helpful to incorporate them here concisely, having introduced a few amendments of my own.
i) The sanctity of life is not an absolute principle, and can be outweighed by the need to respect the personal autonomy and dignity of the patient: Aintree v James [2013] UKSC 6 at [35];
29(ii)
ii) There is no prohibition to conducting a best interests analysis of the continued provision of CANH even though MRS P is not in a vegetative state: W v M [2011] EWHC 2443 (Fam) at [102] per Baker J;
29(iii)
iii) There can be no further guidance beyond the wording of s.4 other than that “decision makers must look at his welfare in the widest sense, not just medical but social and psychological; they must consider what the outcome of that treatment for the patient is likely to be; they must try and put themselves in the place of the individual patient and ask what his attitude to the treatment is or would be likely to be; and they must consult others who are looking after him or are interested in his welfare, in particular for their view of what his attitude would be.” Aintree at [39] per Baroness Hale.
29(iv)
iv) Where the patient’s condition may improve, a best interests decision may be based on the ‘best case scenario’ as advised by the relevant clinicians and experts: Briggs overview at (25) per Charles J
29(v)
v) It is incumbent on the court fully to investigate and consider the values and beliefs of the patient as well as any views the patient expressed when she had capacity that cast light on the likely choice the patient would have made and the factors that the patient would have considered relevant or important: M v N at [70] per Hayden J, Briggs at [54] per Charles J;
29(vi)
vi) Where the patient’s views can be ascertained with sufficient certainty, they should generally be followed (Briggs at [62] per Charles J) or afforded great respect (M v N at [28] per Hayden J), though they are not automatically determinative. ‘…if the decision that P would have made, and so their wishes on such an intensely personal issue can be ascertained with sufficient certainty it should generally prevail over the very strong presumption in favour of preserving life. Briggs at [62ii] per Charles J.‘…the ‘sanctity of life’ or the ‘intrinsic value of life’, can be rebutted (pursuant to statute) on the basis of a competent adult’s cogently expressed wish. It follows, to my mind, by parity of analysis, that the importance of the wishes and feelings of an incapacitated adult, communicated to the court via family or friends but with similar cogency and authenticity, are to be afforded no less significance than those of the capacitous.’ M v N at [32] per Hayden J;
Further learning resources
If you have time, and you’d like to know more about the Mrs P case, then we recommend you read the court judgment in full.
- The published judgment: https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCOP/2017/23.html
To understand more about the context of the case at the time, and the emphasis on the patient’s values, wishes, beliefs and feelings, we also recommend reading this reflection from Lucy Series.
- “A new chapter in ‘best interests’?” – a discussion of context by Lucy Series.
If you want to learn more about Court of Protection hearings, or would like to view a live hearing for yourself, then visit
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This is probably a naïve question but what attempts are made to ascertain patients’ views about their ongoing treatment? Are there established protocols to test people’s ability to respond to yes / no questions? In the case of Mrs P, the physiotherapist recounts some sort of communication involving nodding of the head and responding to a question with the answer four. Did the family corroborate that she would have chosen to listen to radio four? Is it possible that Mrs P’s repeated attempts to remove the naso-gastric tube were a signal that she did not want to retain a feeding tube rather than simply reacting to an irritant?
A good question. The court will have established that she lacked capacity to make the decision about life sustaining treatment for herself before taking on the decision. ‘Capacity’ in relation to any specific decision goes beyond the ability to indicate yes/no – it involves ability to understand and weigh ++ information in relation to that decision. So, even if she had ‘capacity’ to choose radio 4 that would not have meant she necessarily had capacity to understand and weigh (etc) the implications of continuing or discontinuing treatment. I’m not sure that fully answers your question so do come back if you want further discussion….
Thanks Jenny. Does this mean that if someone can only signal a yes or no, this can never be sufficient to determine whether they understood, used or weighed information before communicating their yes or no response? If so, is this the case even if someone repeatedly and consistently responds the same way to a question? If I were the person at the centre of any proceedings, I would want the right to be given repeated opportunities to communicate a decision and, if the same decision is consistently communicated, then have it admitted as evidence to the court.
That’s right – in fact even if they can say more than ‘yes/no’, and can eloquently argue their case, the Court of Protection can still conclude that they lack capacity to make the decision. There are cases in the court for example where a woman might argue she doesn’t want a cesarean section but may have a compulsory one because the court judges she lacks capacity in relation to that decision and it is in her best interests to have that operation…the same may be applied to very articulate people who want to refuse feeding (e.g. in the case of some people with anorexia), refuse an amputation of a gangrenous limb, or who want to live at home, not go into a care home. The person’s wishes and feelings are ascertained and considered in the court (some speak directly to the court) – and are taken into account – but do not determine the best interests decision.
…unless, of course, they are found, in fact to ‘have capacity’ in relation to the decision in question (which does occasionally happen of course)
This was so useful to read- very interesting to read about the judges comments and the weight given to the families expressions re: their mothers wishes and the way she lived her life.